ptaylor
Sep 5 2005, 02:29 AM
Anyone have a particular Universal binary you'd like to see? I think I'll have a bit of time tomorrow to "play" and thought perhaps I can come up with something that will be useful.
Please, don't suggest things that aren't open-source...

I can't make any promises, but I've been pretty successful with my first two - Chicken of the VNC and Shiira.
Paul
halo1982
Sep 5 2005, 03:03 AM
QUOTE(ptaylor @ Sep 4 2005, 08:29 PM)
Anyone have a particular Universal binary you'd like to see? I think I'll have a bit of time tomorrow to "play" and thought perhaps I can come up with something that will be useful.
Please, don't suggest things that aren't open-source...

I can't make any promises, but I've been pretty successful with my first two - Chicken of the VNC and Shiira.
Paul
DesktopManager please! I couldn't get it to compile on DarwinPorts and I know someone has made an x86 version of it but I can't find it anywhere...all the sites are down. If you could make that it would be super
williedigital
Sep 5 2005, 03:19 AM
I would very much like fire
http://fire.sourceforge.net/and folder player
http://www.discosw.net/folderplayer.htmlalthough i'm not sure if it's open-source...
cabron
Sep 5 2005, 03:26 AM
VideoLan with "no video acceleration support"
like this Mplayer on this thread:
http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=764If someone have this mplayer, please share with us
Also: Daily CVS AdiumX
There is a lamer0 compilation, but still unstable, maybe if you can help him on a full stable version.. hum?
A working Themechanger would be great too

er.. just it
ptaylor
Sep 5 2005, 03:27 AM
QUOTE(williedigital @ Sep 4 2005, 11:19 PM)
I would very much like fire
http://fire.sourceforge.net/and folder player
http://www.discosw.net/folderplayer.htmlalthough i'm not sure if it's open-source...
They haven't released source (on their sourceforge site, at least) for 1.5.3... Only 1.5.1 and older... 1.5.1 from Jan of this year... If I remember right, Fire had an issue with Tiger when it was released, so building 1.5.1 probably wouldn't be terribly useful...
If you can find 1.5.3 source, link it here.
ptaylor
Sep 5 2005, 03:40 AM
QUOTE(halo1982 @ Sep 4 2005, 11:03 PM)
DesktopManager please! I couldn't get it to compile on DarwinPorts and I know someone has made an x86 version of it but I can't find it anywhere...all the sites are down. If you could make that it would be super

When I compile DesktopManager for PPC, it appears to complete without error, but when I compile for Intel or Universal, I get several errors related to "PPC_THREAD_STATE"...
Sorry... but it looks like some code changes are required to get this to work on Intel...
Paul
ptaylor
Sep 5 2005, 04:03 AM
QUOTE(cabron @ Sep 4 2005, 11:26 PM)
VideoLan with "no video acceleration support"
like this Mplayer on this thread:
http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=764If someone have this mplayer, please share with us
Also: Daily CVS AdiumX
There is a lamer0 compilation, but still unstable, maybe if you can help him on a full stable version.. hum?
A working Themechanger would be great too

er.. just it

I think the VideoLan and Mplayer ports are a bit over my head...
I can try to get a more updated AdiumX port tomorrow sometime.
I quickly downloaded and compiled ThemeChanger as a Universal... I'm not really that familiar with it, so I didn't really try it out, other than to see if it would execute... It's attached. Let me know if you have trouble with it, or if it works, or whatever...
Paul
cabron
Sep 5 2005, 04:08 AM
QUOTE(ptaylor @ Sep 5 2005, 04:03 AM)
I think the VideoLan and Mplayer ports are a bit over my head...
I can try to get a more updated AdiumX port tomorrow sometime.
I quickly downloaded and compiled ThemeChanger as a Universal... I'm not really that familiar with it, so I didn't really try it out, other than to see if it would execute... It's attached. Let me know if you have trouble with it, or if it works, or whatever...
Paul
Ok ptaylor
I will test now your themechanger compilation, i have success to manage some installable skins here, well not a really success, lets see what we can do with this new on

thanks advice!
ptaylor
Sep 5 2005, 04:15 AM
QUOTE(cabron @ Sep 5 2005, 12:08 AM)
Ok ptaylor
I will test now your themechanger compilation, i have success to manage some installable skins here, well not a really success, lets see what we can do with this new on

thanks advice!
Good luck... I've never really messed around with various Themes on Mac OS, as I'm generally pretty happy with the default look and feel of it, but looking at some of those theme sites is making me wonder if I shouldn't start looking into it a bit more..

BTW, when I executed it on my machine, it was on my PPC Mac, and it did start up just fine. Let me know how the Intel side works out.
cabron
Sep 5 2005, 04:35 AM
WOOOOOOT
your finnest hot compilation is the first one working here

it's amost ready to use (i think)
there is a little problems on patching the finder.rsrc and extras.rsrc (but it's happen too when i tried the installable theme changing)
look at the screen.
i also find a little bug, when you chose the menu in menubar, the fonts don't apply acording the theme. (like ak: black menu background and black fonts, i also don't know if it a bug of program or the dlta file.)
Edit:Here another screen, (mplayer and adium with milk skin, finder with default skin)
Admiral
Sep 5 2005, 05:53 AM
I would like to see an aMule Universal Binery. The PPC version is pretty slow with rosetta. I tried to recompile it myself, but I am not able to get wxMac running. Perhaps someone with more skills like me is able to get an Universal Binery aMule up and running.
Thanks in advance!
donniedarko
Sep 5 2005, 12:56 PM
a very good port of adium will be great
those avaible don't refresh avatar and file transfer don't work.
ptaylor
Sep 5 2005, 03:25 PM
QUOTE(cabron @ Sep 5 2005, 12:35 AM)
WOOOOOOT
your finnest hot compilation is the first one working here

it's amost ready to use (i think)
there is a little problems on patching the finder.rsrc and extras.rsrc (but it's happen too when i tried the installable theme changing)
look at the screen.
i also find a little bug, when you chose the menu in menubar, the fonts don't apply acording the theme. (like ak: black menu background and black fonts, i also don't know if it a bug of program or the dlta file.)
Edit:Here another screen, (mplayer and adium with milk skin, finder with default skin)

Well, I'm afraid that I probably can't help with those issues... Fonts on x86 don't seem to be quite the same as PPC.. At least, I've seen more font problems with x86... Glad that it's working to that degree though.. That's at least a plus!
cabron
Sep 5 2005, 03:42 PM
QUOTE
Well, I'm afraid that I probably can't help with those issues... Fonts on x86 don't seem to be quite the same as PPC.. At least, I've seen more font problems with x86... Glad that it's working to that degree though.. That's at least a plus!
ok np!
i look arround the theme sites and etc for more information, this happen because dtla files have a kind of bug, and not all guikit will be successfull converted.
the theme changer seems okay and working great.
xptek
Sep 5 2005, 03:44 PM
A decent port of Audium would be nice.
mortis
Sep 5 2005, 04:45 PM
QUOTE(xptek @ Sep 5 2005, 03:44 PM)
A decent port of Audium would be nice.
Do you port Applicatios only, or can you port drivers??
cwestpha
Sep 5 2005, 04:55 PM
Please for the love of god port OSXVNC. I need a good VNC server so I can work and show off my OS X install to non-belivers.
Its a SourceForge project so all of the source code should be there.
williedigital
Sep 5 2005, 04:59 PM
i think osxvnc already is universal. i'm pretty sure i saw it floating.
ptaylor
Sep 5 2005, 05:11 PM
QUOTE(xptek @ Sep 5 2005, 11:44 AM)
A decent port of Audium would be nice.
To all those wanting AdiumX... Sorry... I've been unable to get it to compile at all... It looked like libgaim was the issue, so I downloaded it and tried compiling the latest version of it... In looking at the code, it appears to be coverted to be Universal, but so far I can't get it to finish compiling either, complaining about a PPC/Intel issue (if I remember right)...
Paul
ptaylor
Sep 5 2005, 05:16 PM
QUOTE(mortis @ Sep 5 2005, 12:45 PM)
Do you port Applicatios only, or can you port drivers??
Apps only... I'm actually very new to Mac OS X programming... I've done programming for Palm devices, Solaris, Windows, Web apps, and most recently for Monowall (FreeBSD). Haven't written anything for Mac OS X yet though.
donniedarko
Sep 5 2005, 05:17 PM
and now i'm sad :/
let's try itunes and photoshop
i'm joking.
Kettobase
Sep 5 2005, 05:23 PM
Think you could get Shapeshifter to work? There's a prefsystem error
ptaylor
Sep 5 2005, 05:25 PM
QUOTE(Admiral @ Sep 5 2005, 01:53 AM)
I would like to see an aMule Universal Binery. The PPC version is pretty slow with rosetta. I tried to recompile it myself, but I am not able to get wxMac running. Perhaps someone with more skills like me is able to get an Universal Binery aMule up and running.
Thanks in advance!
Sorry, but aMule does not appear to be an Xcode project... And I wouldn't know where to begin to convert it to one.
Steve Jobs made it sound like your app must be converted to Xcode before you can create Universal binaries... If it is possible to do via command-line GCC, I don't know how... I've been spoiled by nice GUI compilers, I guess..
Paul
Velvet Nightmare
Sep 5 2005, 05:31 PM
A stable version of Shapshifter would be pretty cool. However, I've had it do a LOT of damage to other computers, real Macs running OSX, so I still don't like it too much, but if a solid port was possible, I would give it a try.
Course you need to source...
donniedarko
Sep 5 2005, 05:38 PM
real mac running osx but soon real mac will run real x86 apps
lamer0
Sep 5 2005, 06:05 PM
QUOTE(ptaylor @ Sep 5 2005, 05:11 PM)
To all those wanting AdiumX... Sorry... I've been unable to get it to compile at all... It looked like libgaim was the issue, so I downloaded it and tried compiling the latest version of it... In looking at the code, it appears to be coverted to be Universal, but so far I can't get it to finish compiling either, complaining about a PPC/Intel issue (if I remember right)...
Paul
Decent port of adium? umm.. ya
http://lamer0.com/ports.html - its rock solid. I also got desktop manager up there as well.
donniedarko
Sep 5 2005, 06:13 PM
it's solid but as i said before
no file transfer and no avatar update.
cwestpha
Sep 5 2005, 06:17 PM
From what Jobs said only this new X Code supports Universal at the moment. However Apple people said they are going to be working with others to show them how to make compilers so their dev apps will work. I belive this is how Intel is working on porting its dev utilities to the Mac and how that one company that was the big Mac dev suite (blanking on the name) intends to continue Mac support (as they claimed).
ptaylor
Sep 5 2005, 06:27 PM
QUOTE(DJP @ Sep 5 2005, 04:33 AM)
Ok.. This is a Universal binary... Since I've never used this before, I couldn't do much in the way of testing.. It does execute on Intel, though.
Please let me know how well it works.
Paul
Edit: Removed link - See my reply later in this post with a fixed version.
ptaylor
Sep 5 2005, 07:00 PM
QUOTE(Kettobase @ Sep 5 2005, 01:23 PM)
Think you could get Shapeshifter to work? There's a prefsystem error
Sorry, without the source, I don't have a chance of getting it to work...
cabron
Sep 5 2005, 07:04 PM
shapeshifter needs ape
and ape works on amost of suxanity applications, shapeshifter won't work on x86 (with ape installed)
weird? yeah!!!
I tried to contact unsanity and asking about a beta or test version of shapeshifter for x86 i gave just a "not yet" for awanser.
maybe a hacking can get it working?
i really don't know.
ptaylor
Sep 5 2005, 07:09 PM
QUOTE(lamer0 @ Sep 5 2005, 02:05 PM)
Decent port of adium? umm.. ya
http://lamer0.com/ports.html - its rock solid. I also got desktop manager up there as well.
I didn't have much luck with either of those... Desktop Manager gave me "PPC_THREAD" related errors when trying to compile for Intel... Adium was giving me all sorts of trouble...
ptaylor
Sep 5 2005, 07:18 PM
QUOTE(cwestpha @ Sep 5 2005, 12:55 PM)
Please for the love of god port OSXVNC. I need a good VNC server so I can work and show off my OS X install to non-belivers.
Its a SourceForge project so all of the source code should be there.
I believe this is already a Universal...
And if it's not, you don't need it anyhow.. Just use Apple's Remote Desktop as a VNC server. Go to System Preferences > Sharing > Apple Remote Desktop and enable it. With it highlighted, hit the "Access Privileges" button. Select the User you want it to run for, and check the "VNC viewers may control screen with password:" and enter a password. You can leave everything else unchecked, since it doesn't really matter for VNC viewers controlling it.
Paul
DellOsX
Sep 5 2005, 07:46 PM
Think you could get flash working in Deer Park? Or an x86 build of firefox with flashworking?
lamer0
Sep 5 2005, 07:49 PM
how is my adium port unstable, I been running it for 3 days straight while connected to multiple IM services without a hitch. If your crashing its most likely on your end.
cyrana
Sep 5 2005, 08:00 PM
QUOTE(lamer0 @ Sep 5 2005, 02:49 PM)
how is my adium port unstable, I been running it for 3 days straight while connected to multiple IM services without a hitch. If your crashing its most likely on your end.
I run lamer's port and I have no issues either. I even run stuff over an ssh socks4 proxy and it runs great.
ptaylor
Sep 5 2005, 08:06 PM
QUOTE(DellOsX @ Sep 5 2005, 03:46 PM)
Think you could get flash working in Deer Park? Or an x86 build of firefox with flashworking?
I thought someone already had x86 firefox with flash working... I was actually thinking about revisiting my Shiira build to see if I can get plug-ins to work on Intel.. Just not sure where to start..

Paul
kraz
Sep 5 2005, 08:46 PM
x86 Adium port is indeed stable, but does it properly support gaimlib? I use Gadu-Gadu, which gives me a gaimlib error while I'm trying to connect to server. However, verything works fine in the PPC version.
Just my 2 cents. Good job on the port.
cabron
Sep 5 2005, 08:51 PM
QUOTE
I run lamer's port and I have no issues either. I even run stuff over an ssh socks4 proxy and it runs great.
i will try it here
because every time when i get a message or a contact join or quit, the adium runs slower.
DellOsX
Sep 5 2005, 08:54 PM
QUOTE(ptaylor @ Sep 5 2005, 04:06 PM)
I thought someone already had x86 firefox with flash working... I was actually thinking about revisiting my Shiira build to see if I can get plug-ins to work on Intel.. Just not sure where to start..

Paul
I havent seen it, would you happened to no where you found this?
QUOTE(ptaylor @ Sep 5 2005, 06:27 PM)
Ok.. This is a Universal binary... Since I've never used this before, I couldn't do much in the way of testing.. It does execute on Intel, though.
Please let me know how well it works.
Paul
Edit: Seems to be having trouble accepting this attachment... Hmm..
Since the forum seems to not like attachments at the moment, here's a link:
FFView 0.9Thanks. It runs good, the only problem is that it displays the images completely with a blue tint. (Intel gma 900 card here, quartz extreme enabled). I've seen this before, also with the port of vlc and which could be fixed if you changed the output mode to quartz video. Any idea how it can be fixed with ffview?
ptaylor
Sep 6 2005, 12:01 AM
QUOTE(DellOsX @ Sep 5 2005, 04:54 PM)
I havent seen it, would you happened to no where you found this?
Actually, I looked for it after my post... The only thing I found as the "Better Firefox" build, which is actually a build of Deer Park when you download it... It is supposed to support plug-ins, but it does not work with flash as I previously thought...
Of course, I thought some more about this... Thing is, you run Safari or Shiira with Rosetta and the plug-ins work... That makes me think that the issue is that the plug-in isn't "universal"... That the plug-in for flash is only for PPC. I'm guessing that the plug-in attempts to run in the same mode as the main application... There does not appear to be a way to force the plug-in to run under Rosetta while the main app runs native Intel...
If anyone comes up with a way to run flash in an Intel native browser, that would be a great thing... I doubt we'll see it though, until Macromedia releases a new version of flash that is a Universal plug-in, if such a thing can exist.
ptaylor
Sep 6 2005, 12:19 AM
QUOTE(DJP @ Sep 5 2005, 06:57 PM)
Thanks. It runs good, the only problem is that it displays the images completely with a blue tint. (Intel gma 900 card here, quartz extreme enabled). I've seen this before, also with the port of vlc and which could be fixed if you changed the output mode to quartz video. Any idea how it can be fixed with ffview?
Hmm.. But FFView renders in OpenGL, right?
I've tested with some of the sample images (iChat icons, actually) and I see the odd coloration you are referring to. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to fix it...
cwestpha
Sep 6 2005, 01:19 AM
QUOTE(ptaylor @ Sep 5 2005, 07:18 PM)
I believe this is already a Universal...
And if it's not, you don't need it anyhow.. Just use Apple's Remote Desktop as a VNC server. Go to System Preferences > Sharing > Apple Remote Desktop and enable it. With it highlighted, hit the "Access Privileges" button. Select the User you want it to run for, and check the "VNC viewers may control screen with password:" and enter a password. You can leave everything else unchecked, since it doesn't really matter for VNC viewers controlling it.
Paul
OSXVNC is PowerPC as reported by OS X. Apple's Remote Desktop doesnt work well as it doesnt behave with almost all non-mac VNC clients. It either doesnt understand the encoding or gives distorted images back.
I need something I can use from a PC and doesnt crash. Neither of these fit the bill.
ptaylor
Sep 6 2005, 01:49 AM
QUOTE(cwestpha @ Sep 5 2005, 09:19 PM)
OSXVNC is PowerPC as reported by OS X. Apple's Remote Desktop doesnt work well as it doesnt behave with almost all non-mac VNC clients. It either doesnt understand the encoding or gives distorted images back.
I need something I can use from a PC and doesnt crash. Neither of these fit the bill.
Well, yes - it does show up as a PowerPC app on my Intel box too...
But, version 1.61 was supposed to add Intel support to some degree... Taken from
http://www.redstonesoftware.com/vnc.html:Change Log:
Added support for Mac OS X running on INTEL.
(It's the 2nd item from the top of the Change log on their site)
So, it doesn't say it's a Universal binary, but it seems to indicate some added support for running it on the Intel platform... Perhaps emailing them would be helpful.. I emailed them after installing 1.61 and noticing that it was taking up tons of processor, sitting idle... They quickly emailed me back saying they had not seen that issue, but by the next day they had emailed me again saying that there was a corrupt upload to sourceforge causing those CPU issues and to try again.. So, they appear to be fairly responsive...
Perhaps it was only preliminary support for Intel... Or perhaps they don't realize there is an issue, like the extra CPU cycle problem I encountered.
Paul
ptaylor
Sep 6 2005, 02:02 AM
Well guys, I'm about to pack up my Dev Kit machine until next weekend (unless my ADD2-N card arrives early). You see, it doesn't currently have a "home", what with all my other machines crowding the area, and I don't want to leave it out where it is due to very small children that will be here this week while I'm away at work...
I'll still be able to try various ports on my PPC machine if I get the time this week... My time will be much more limited than this past weekend, though.
cabron
Sep 6 2005, 02:19 AM
i "solved" the unstable "problem" on lamer0's adiumx
just turn off the client sounds and will work perfectly
but if you turn it on or use some sound pack, the laggy desktop will be back when you recivile a new message or a contact take off or come up in your list.
QUOTE
Well guys, I'm about to pack up my Dev Kit machine until next weekend (unless my ADD2-N card arrives early). You see, it doesn't currently have a "home", what with all my other machines crowding the area, and I don't want to leave it out where it is due to very small children that will be here this week while I'm away at work...
I'll still be able to try various ports on my PPC machine if I get the time this week... My time will be much more limited than this past weekend, though.
don't worrie man
yours future compilations will be great for us
we can wait any time, so you do a favor for free by us and when you have free time to do some nice transition applications here we'll not bother you.
the working themechanger say it

thanks for all
lamer0
Sep 6 2005, 03:12 AM
the adiumx I compiled is from cvs, some stuff *MIGHT* be broken since its a work in progress. The sound issues might be a trivial endian issue I can fix. CoreAudio lets you have byte sex ;-P (byte swapping)
Leroy W. DeShevala
Sep 6 2005, 08:58 PM
Any chance of a visual boy advance port?
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