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iDerf2006
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Just out of curiosity, are you guys going to be uninstalling tiger? If it is stable, I guess I will be getting rid of it. If I want to do that, how would I?

Hey, if you're brave enough, go for it. I did. Worked like a charm. Leopard is faster then Tiger on my Mac mini, and very very stable (not one single crash yet). The new iChat, Safari 3, Spaces, Spotlight Updates, Help Updates, Vector Resizing - it's all brilliant and stable. Go for it.
xxdesmus
QUOTE(itsadeal @ Aug 14 2006, 08:34 PM) *
Just out of curiosity, are you guys going to be uninstalling tiger? If it is stable, I guess I will be getting rid of it. If I want to do that, how would I?


Definitely not. I have a mactel mini and I've already had 2 crashes when trying to wake it up from screensaver. I am not going to say much because this is not the place for it, but I am back in Tiger because I use my mini as a web server/ftp server for a few people and I couldn't keep it down any longer.
duransnipes
I am unable to boot from the dvd dl. I went out and bought a batch tested 2 diffrent disks and nothing boots. It mounts fine in the desktop. What can i do. Help Or what am i doing wrong.
a0011a91
ok so i took out xcode using carbon cloner, then i converted the dmg to iso, but it was not a bootable? f*** i don't know...

what program are you using to burn things baby?

I am burning using xp..
duransnipes
Im using Toast
a0011a91
Toast and windows xp are not friends

Please someone help?
supervisor197
I tried to load Leopard on my PPC Powermac G4 dual 800 (I regularly use my G5 but I experiment on the G4). I used toast to copy the 10.5 dmg to a DL disk. I also couldn't get my DL disk to boot by holding the option key down nor by holding down the c key. I finally succeeded by erasing one of my additional drives (I call it drivec) and then used the disk utility to restore from my 10.5 DL disk to destination drivec. After that finished, I changed the startup disk to drivec and rebooted. Once the Leopard install came up I installed over Tiger 10.4.7 on my main drive. After that was done I erased drivec and made sure my main drive was the startup drive. Now all is well. So far no problems.
itsadeal
AWESOME! I now have 10.5 installed, but it seems like I put it on the wrong partition. I put it on the one with tiger. It just upgraded it to 10.5. How do I get rid of the second partition I set up using bootcamp. I cannot select anything in the disk utility. I am down to 8.2gb on an 80gb drive. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP!

Also, I am running Time Machine, and it seems to be taking FOREVER. The bar is barely moving, at like 1 or 2% I think, and it has been going for 30 minutes.
mindcrime
Hello,
I have a problem while installing Leopard and would like to know if someone else has it too : the installer stalls when comes the time to install the BSD Subsystem : it says "5 minutes" forever :-(

Here's what I did :
1 - Restore the dmg to a HFS+ journalized volume
2 - Start from this volume
3 - Install to a HFS+ journalized volume.

Config : PowerMac G5 2x2.5 Ghz 2Gb Ram.

ThanX!
LiveForPhysics
For people attemting to burn Leopard on a single-layer DVD by removing xCode: using the Carbon Copy app method does not provide a bootable Leopard DVD for installation.

I performed what a previous poster had suggested which involved making a new 4.7 disk image via Disk Utility and using the Carbon Copy application to copy the contents of the (mounted) Leopard disk image to the newly created disk image from Disk Utility. Using the Carbon Copy app, before cloning the Leopard image onto the new disk image, I removed the xCode folder to guarantee that enough space was available on the disk image to be burned onto a SL DVD. Once the cloning was complete, I burned the new disk image through Toast, but found that I wasn't able to direclty boot from the DVD (the start-up screen would remain at the grey Apple logo). I burned the DVD a second time using the Disk Utility app, but results were the same.

I did, however, manage to install Leopard via the external hard drive method, restoring the Leopard disk image to a partition on the hard drive through Disk Utility. Currently typing in Leopard. smile.gif
chrisc
previous poster? did you mean "my" method?

Well, I recommend burning the new DMG with DiskUtility (NOT TOAST!). Toast crashed my DVD-RW. I think it is important to reboot after CCC has cloned the image because the Mac really works slowly after that process.
Thus: Reboot & burn with Apple's Disk Utility.

This Method workes fine for me (native, new installation). I'm writing this using Leopard smile.gif
Zampano
I tried it another way that I haven't seen mentioned in these threads anywhere,
so maybe it's extremely stupid, but I can't find a problem with it,
apart from not working when trying to actually install... ;-)

That's what I did:

- mount the dmg in the finder
- drag + drop the mounted volume on Toast
- remove xcode tools from the toast file list to reduce file size below 4,7 GB
- burn on a single layer DVD, yay !!

Clever, huh...? Or not...? And if so, why not...?

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The resulting DVD mounts like a regular installation disc in Tiger, and also shows up as a
bootable startup volume in system preferences, but when trying to install or boot
from this disc, my Mac just boots up in normal Tiger mode...!!

Also, when holding the alt key at startup, the DVD does not show up, although it
shows up in the startup volume preferences ?!?

Installing from the mounted dmg also didn't work, the farthest I got was the grey
"no smoking" symbol... (I have a free 40 GB HFS+ partition on PPC Dual G5)

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I then tried to install by doubleclicking System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg
and it finally started installation, but I only came to the same point like one of the former posters,
which means it halts seemingly forever right after completing BSD Subsystem...

What am I doing wrong...???

Heeeeeeeeeeeeelp Pleeeeeease !

Thanks in advance...
mindcrime
QUOTE(Zampano @ Aug 15 2006, 08:32 AM) *
I then tried to install by doubleclicking System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg
and it finally started installation, but I only came to the same point like one of the former posters,
which means it halts seemingly forever right after completing BSD Subsystem...

As I stated before, I have exactly the same problem when installing from a partition where I recovered the original dmg (I also booted from this partition).
I'm trying a few things and keep you in touch.
LiveForPhysics
QUOTE(chrisc @ Aug 15 2006, 07:38 AM) *
previous poster? did you mean "my" method?

Well, I recommend burning the new DMG with DiskUtility (NOT TOAST!). Toast crashed my DVD-RW. I think it is important to reboot after CCC has cloned the image because the Mac really works slowly after that process.
Thus: Reboot & burn with Apple's Disk Utility.

This Method workes fine for me (native, new installation). I'm writing this using Leopard smile.gif


Indeed. Don't use Toast if you want a bootable DVD. Disk Utility is the way to go.
BenTM
QUOTE(a0011a91 @ Aug 15 2006, 12:19 PM) *
ok so i took out xcode using carbon cloner, then i converted the dmg to iso, but it was not a bootable? f*** i don't know...

what program are you using to burn things baby?

I am burning using xp..

XP cannot burn bootable DMGs. Not physically possible. You MUST use a Mac.
(MoC)
I used Zampano's Method and the DVD I burned with toast wont boot. Please help
Zampano
Well, I actually said it doesn't work, didn't I...?

Sorry if I confused anybody...
(MoC)
QUOTE(Zampano @ Aug 15 2006, 01:15 PM) *
Well, I actually said it doesn't work, didn't I...?

Sorry if I confused anybody...




I should be sorry. Can I use target disk mode. I have a B&W G3 with an almost empty partiton. Would the iBook boot off off the G3 HD ?
MarineCorps97
QUOTE(BenTM @ Aug 15 2006, 12:30 PM) *
XP cannot burn bootable DMGs. Not physically possible. You MUST use a Mac.



If you are trying to burn the DMG in XP it is a simple task of downloading and installing Transmac. (Google it)

This will allow you to edit, and burn DMGs in Windows.

Thanks,
macius
I was trying hard to install leopard on my ibook g4, but without DL disc (I have no DL burner) it was quite hard. Especialy, becouse my ibook still is running under panther, not tiger. First, I tried booting from external drive - no bonus there, it won't boot. No idea why, it just refused to... Second, I was poking with possibility of removing some files from Leo DVD - of course whitout any success ;-) I even burned three differen discs, but neither of them booted. Ok, want to play hard? Let's play hard! ;-)
So I played - first, using disk target mode I formated and partitioned ibook's hardrive, then restored DVD image to the second partition - voila! It booted without any problem, and 28 minutes later (1,2 GHz, 512 RAM, 6 GB of data - quite achievement) computer rebooted in Leopard. That's it!
One problem still - time machine is not so pretty as on Steve's demo :/ I don't think it will ever be - probably Radeon 9200 is too weak for that. Pity :/
Anyway - having two macs is the best way to install this. Escpecialy that my MBP is my "production" machine, and ibook just a toy ;-)
Masna
Well, thanks for the input!
OryHara
QUOTE(piracy @ Aug 12 2006, 05:07 PM) *
is anyone on a G4? Can someone post how they installed on that?

G4 Sawtooth. Boots to install screen using method in other thread, but my DVD burner is {censored}, and keeps trying to reread the DVD over & over, when I get time, ill replace it with a pioneer & try again.
Tmac
if any of u try to start up leopard and get a blue screen with a mouse and it hangs there u have to boot leopard in safe mode to disable the unecessary drivers from loading.
Alex8912
my predicament:

i wass wondering if i could install leopard onto my firewire ipod. and then just boot into leopard from my ipod when ever i want. would it be possible to do that? i have a imac g4 1.25ghz. i dont want to install leopard onto y machine because of its unstability. could i install the system onto my ipod?
retroz
WOW this is a busy forum..

Lepord brings out the tigger in us I guess.....

I've never seen such a busy forum....

Still awaiting whether EFI on LEP and whether Hack users tried without hack...of course doing so greatly increases your chances of a unstable/un-bootable system.

:-)
(MoC)
Could Someone Help:

I tried to upgrade to leopard but when the Installer was installing the essentials it gave an error: Cannot write some files to /Volume/Mac HD)

I never had problems with my HD, my iBook G4 is brand new, I bought it in December 05

Does anyone know how to solve this issue.?



HELP ME PLZ
thepolishtwin
Quick question: How do you put the DMG contents onto a DVD? I tried using Disk Util the same was as restoring to a HD, but it didn't work.

Thanks in advance wink.gif
Marook
QUOTE(Tmac @ Aug 15 2006, 07:33 PM) *
if any of u try to start up leopard and get a blue screen with a mouse and it hangs there u have to boot leopard in safe mode to disable the unecessary drivers from loading.


And what might they be, say, on a MacBook Pro?
Marook
QUOTE(Marook @ Aug 15 2006, 11:40 PM) *
And what might they be, say, on a MacBook Pro?


Ok, my experience here is this:

Make a Safe Boot (Shift down)
Disable Auto Login

All seems fine!
nigelelliott394
is there any FREE program i can use to make a partition on my boot drive (on my ibook g4) to install leopard to, without damaging anything. (non-destructive partition)
(MoC)
No, Im also looking for 1. But I had no luck. Get out your wallet. theres nothing you can censored2.gif ing do
nigelelliott394
i tried to download ipartition with a serial key, but it has no seeds. ....i'm skint too.
markdg2
Hi can any one help I have installed leopard on my intell mac mini it looks good but I have a problem with spaces when i was tweaking the settings in spaces I selected use mouse now I cant click on anything as it changes screen! how can i dis able this

any clues
thanks mark


fixed it held down the option key and was able to use the mouse yeah!
GoM
Ok well I still get a blue screen death even with safe mode. I installed and my iPod and it worked right after the install, but on reboot it f***ed up. WHY GOD WHY?
nigelelliott394
so now i have ipartition, how do i partition my boot drive with it?
.NetRolller 3D
This thread recommends Transmac for burning the DMG under XP. However, Transmac doesn't seem to like my DMG (gives "No HFS volumes found" when I try to open it). Is it a compressed DMG that is unsupported by Transmac?
Zim
Hmm after 8 pages, seems some guys have found it easier to install it, while others seems like an uphill struggle.

just would like to know, is it possible upgrade 10.4 to 10.5 ? without looking my apps, docs etc?

Z

btw the easiest way to install this if u got an ipod, create 2 partitions on the ipod, restore the installer on one, and then install the os on the other. plug the ipod in when u want leopard or just boot normally when u want tiger
Marook
QUOTE(Zim @ Aug 16 2006, 03:20 PM) *
just would like to know, is it possible upgrade 10.4 to 10.5 ? without looking my apps, docs etc?


Well, I know developers that have lost a disk, so at this point I would HIGHLY recommend that you make a Full backup before any such attempts.

Also, some parts of 10.5 is still very unstable (like Mail.app), so you would not want to use this for nnormal use.

Best,
Zim
Thanks buddy, well i think i may have to do a clean install, i dont thinkmy powerbook G4 ever had one, i chose the upgrade option when i installed tiger.. so i think its about time my baby had a nice clean install.. after i back everything up.. gonna be a fun weekend

ZIm
Over Saint
Ok, i read almost every post here, but for the record, what is the easiest way to install 10.5 on my g4 powerbook, so g4 powerbook, I have the usb external drive, and a 5g ipod as well as a 3g ipod, what should i do to install it. the easiest way though im up for anything i got alot of time...
Zim
Well i aint tried this, just an idea.. mount the installer in the os, run the setup and when it asks you to choose a destination drive select your external disk driver, mind you it has to be firewire and formatted to be used as a disk. powerbooks wont boot form usb only firewire

Zim
lilmoonee
Over Saint

The easiest would be using your 3g ipod with firewire because it is not possible to boot off a USB device but you can boot from a firewire device.
mingistech
QUOTE(Marook @ Aug 16 2006, 01:24 PM) *
Well, I know developers that have lost a disk, so at this point I would HIGHLY recommend that you make a Full backup before any such attempts.

Also, some parts of 10.5 is still very unstable (like Mail.app), so you would not want to use this for nnormal use.

Best,


I've had no stability issues at all. What hardware are you running?
duransnipes
Stability varies alot depending on which machine your running it on from what i see arounf the forum.
Marook
QUOTE(mingistech @ Aug 16 2006, 10:02 PM) *
I've had no stability issues at all. What hardware are you running?


MacBook Pro, 2GHz, 512Mb
mark.
Can someone help me out here? My install doesn't work, it just hangs at the Apple (after pressing C on startup until the Apple shows up)

Here's what I did:

Downloaded carbon copy cloner
Copied the OS X disk, but deleted the Xcode folder (from CCC)
In ccc, made the destination (target) disk bootable
Used disk utility to burn the DVD (dvd-r)
restarted, held C

and it just hangs on the Apple, on the G3 & G4 I let hang for like.....40 minutes. on the macbook pro it got the gear after 3 minutes. let it hang for 30 more minutes, nothing.

what am I doing wrong? what other way without using an external drive, DL DVD, iPod, etc can I use?
how can I just install it within the os on a different partition or something?

thanks in advance biggrin.gif
cgbegger
TIPS: DO NOT USE PACIFIST OR CARBON COPY CLONER.

i have tried both and they've both failed. the only wait to get a proper bootable drive is to use the restore function in Disk Utility. I am going to try and make a pared down single layer DVD for backup but using the restore to a disk partition works fine, not just to external drives.

fyi - posted from a successful system installed from a restored Leopard CD install disk.
(MoC)
Can Someone Please Help ME !

Could Someone Help:

I tried to upgrade to leopard but when the Installer was installing the essentials it gave an error: Cannot write some files to /Volumes/iBook G4)

I never had problems with my HD, my iBook G4 is brand new, I bought it in December 05

Does anyone know how to solve this issue.?

Help Me Help ME HELP MEEE

HELP ME PLZ
Squalere
I created read/write image, deleted Xcode Tools and restored it to a 4 GB image created wih Disk Utility. I restored this image to a Creative Zen player, but I don't know how to boot from it and start the install. blink.gif
2mass
QUOTE(nigelelliott394 @ Aug 16 2006, 12:17 AM) *
so now i have ipartition, how do i partition my boot drive with it?


i actually payed for that crap program.. it cant resize or anything, crappy program. partition magic for windows can resize the boot partition and create new, merge and convert filesystems, and lots of stuff, ipartition couldnt do anything to neither the boot partition ( Tiger) or the partition i created for leopard.



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