Predictions? Adrian, do you have any word that this is the new scheme? I guess we will know if it is if we do get a build tomorrow.

No news whatsoever.

For years, Apple has seeded Monthly Developer Previews on the 2nd Thursday of the month.
Just this last month, Apple decided to push it back a week (possibly due to MacWorld, but that is just speculation).

As we did not get anything on the 8th, it is reasonable to assume that we will get one on the 15th as Apple did say that they would be giving out Monthly Seed Updates via ADC.

The problem with dealing with Apple is that even after a release, everything is speculation.

Remember everyone, Apple does not generally release until the Afternoon in the Pacific Timezone.
If we do not get it by 7:00 PM PST, 8:00 PM MST, 9:00 PM CST or 10:00 PM EST, then it is not coming.

The earliest I have ever seen one go up has been 2:30 PM PST, with builds usually going up around 4:30 PM PST.

i just think it's funny how there's an apple special event tomorrow, and a new build of loepard might be released, if its like last week. weird

There's an Apple event tomorrow?

what apple special event?

There isn't anything on Apple's events site.
Where did you hear about it?

methinks he made it up again lol

I think he may be thinking of the WWDC event in June...that is set for the 15th if I recall correctly.

what, i remember people here talking about a special event on feb 15th, or maybe it was march. it was after the macworld that people started mentioning it. maybe someone else made it up or something

I am fairly sure that Apple events tend to be on Tuesdays...but I could easily be wrong about that.

yeah, macworld, wwdc, etc.

yeah its supposed to be on the 20th of February im pretty sure. Supposedly this is when they unveil ilife and iwork 07 and i guess some more apple tv talk.

yeah, that's what i was thinking of. i almost had myself covisced that i made it up, but i guess not. thanks

It is 2:10 PST....hopefully we will be getting a new build within the next few hours!

6:30 PM PST.

Everyone at Apple has likely left for the day already.

Guess we are outa luck and everything we have come to expect has been crushed, just like our dreams.

bummer!

Latest that I have ever seem something go up was 7:00 PM PST, so guess that they still have 13 minutes... either that, or we will end up with a new latest time that things get posted.

Or we will end up with going away from a normal schedule.

But even then, it is probably better that we have nothing than something that gets errors when trying to install or will not run most apps.

There were lots of updates already today...so I doubt that more is to come.

Hopefully there will be one and it is just very far down in the queue for stuff to be uploaded, validated and activated.

But am not holding out much hope there.

I am done logging in once every half an hour to see if there is anything new. Gonna wait till I get the seed update e-mail. Usually doesn't come for a good 6 hours after something is released, but then you know for sure.

Im assuming if it doesnt come today it should come soon, it did look like their were a lot of bugs in the last build, hopefully most of them are crushed.

It's Friday and no seeds released..

WTF happens with Leopard ?
Apple seems to have some difficults to provide the beta releases.

Well, we know that there needs to be a new iTunes release to work with AppleTV. We also know that iTunes and the audio stack have some issues that prevent playing audio from purchased videos.

There is also talk that AppleTV will give support for screen sharing between the AppleTV and Leopard but nothing has been confirmed there.

Add to that that Apple is offering reduced pricing for ADC Members for AppleTV. That is not the case with the iPods or other peripheral devices.

Perhaps Apple is going to be releasing the next build simultaneously with AppleTV.

All this is just speculation, but Apple did say at WWDC that they would be releasing Monthly Seed Updates to Developers.

We are in uncharted territory.

haha...cant wait cant wait...

hopefully this one will have big changes

Where did you get that information?

I just checked the release dates for each Developer Preview of Panther and Tiger and they are all over the map. I've got Tu, We, Fr, Su of the first week of the month, Mo of the second, Tu, We, 2 Fr, 2 Su of the third and We, Th, 2 Fr, Sa and Su of the fourth.

In fact there are only two (Leopard) seeds that were released on a 2nd Thursday of the month in the last 5 years.

wow, where'd you get yot info?

Supercow:

Are you a dev?

i seem to doubt that he is

Just checked and supercow is correct

Just a few releases:

Mac OS X "Jaguar" Build 6C115 - 01 Aug 2002 - Third Tuesday of the month
Mac OS X 10.2.8 Build 6R73 - 02 Oct 2003 - First Tuesday of the month
Mac OS X v10.3 Panther Build 7B85 - 14 Oct 2003 - Second Tuesday of the month
Mac OS X Update 10.3.2 Build 7D24 - 15 Dec 2003 - Third monday of the month
Mac OS X 10.3.4 Build 7H63 - 24 May 2004 - 4th Monday of the month
Mac OS X 10.3.5 Build 7M34 - 09 Aug 2004 - 2nd Monday of the month
Mac OS X 10.3.6 Build 7R28 - 03 Nov 2004 - First Wednesday of the month
Mac OS X 10.3.7 Build 7S210 - 01 Dec 2004 - First Wednesday of the month
Mac OS X 10.3.7 Build 7S215 - 13 Dec 2004 - 2nd Monday of the month

Well, in one week, february will be over.
If there is no developper preview this week, I think that the rumor about leopard for the end of march is true.